* Dr. Plinios mission is to defeat the revolution, the Communistic and/or demonic forces which are corrupting the human race. This is quite disturbing. We want to answer your questions about the Bible. Like you, we wonder how much longer God will put up with the wickedness and immorality that is so rampant today. This false prophet was treated a living saint; his followers would bow in his presence, revere his personal belongings and compose hymns honoring him and his mother. (23rd National Assembly of the Brazilian Bishops Conference, April 18, 1985 at Itaici), Also remember: they steal vocations. Today Father George W. Rutler reached out to LifeSiteNews and other media today with the followingContinue Reading, More than 21,000 people have signed a letter calling for U.S. Catholic bishops to cancel a planned vote on whetherPresident Bidenshould receive communion. The reason for this foreboding is that the message and requests of Our Lady have mostly gone unheeded. Our Lady highlighted the daily recitation of the Rosary, ones daily duty and the need for reparation. I like what this group represents but a recent question published in the National Catholic Register (NCR) on 9/16/07 asked about whether this group was a cult and about the priest, Fr. The 17 Approved Scapulars of the Catholic Church - Fatima I affiliated with the group after meeting with a TFP sympathizer in my home state of California. They are instructed that their tao or vocation is a higher calling than their family life. including suggestions. Itaici, 19 de abril de 1985. Perhaps we have been spared thus far because, as St. Paul said, Where sin increased, grace overflowed all the more (Romans 5:20). Fr. The communique dated April 19, 1985 from the Bishops of Brazil exhorts that Catholics should not get in T.F.P. I have a number of personal friends who are in TFP. July is devoted to the Precious Blood of Jesus. I then received a mailing from Fr. Gruner has nothing to do with this group, TFP. Sometimes TFP recruits married men. [citation needed] Fatima home visits[edit] Pray the rosary daily for the consecration of Russia. I copy his letter below for reference: [This letter was published in the Campos daily, La Folha de Manh in 1991; the original text, however, is dated 1984, two years after Bishop de Castro Mayers break with TFP. Some families have lost their sons. So much more so when, as I have observed, members of the Hierarchy unfortunately and frequently utter words and take positions which any Catholic can see are dissonant from doctrine and from the guidance of the Church of the ages.. Scapular of the Blessed Virgin Mary. World Apostolate of Fatima, USA I believe the group to be a dangerous cult which does harm to those within its web, and to the Catholic Church which I thought I was serving while I was with it. TFP cleverly organizes events that draw faithful, even prominent, Catholics into innocent association with the group. In 1915, as World War I raged in Europe, a Portuguese girl saw something strange in the sky. Actually, if you ask me; America needs Jesus the Christ our Savior. "Does America Really Need Fatima? [See following page]. Boys and young men who are selected for membership in the group soon learn to have contempt for their parents while also plying them with requests for money to support the work of the group. Its on TFPs site. Our daily edition includes: a selection of They would be considered private associations. It offers to us a contemporary lens through which we may consider Our Lord, all that has been disclosed about Him and His benevolent plan for us. Our Lady identified herself as the Immaculate Conception and asked that a chapel be built there, which has become renowned as a place of healing for the sick. Nevertheless, TFP had a healthy beginning. By all means, please do gather to say the Rosary on October 13, but do not do it in the name of America Needs Fatima. They try to show how good they are (heck, I just found out about this and had their pictures up in my house! I understand the TFP has many enemies, some of whom were members and left to join other organisations. Actually, if you ask me; America needs Jesus the Christ our Savior. The group was also condemned by the Brazilian Bishops for abuse of the Holy Name of Mary. America Needs Fatima is a wolf in sheeps clothing. In your opinion, should I do the visit, or cancel? This is an excellent expose blog concerning America Needs Fatima. As early as 1942, Pius XII consecrated the entire world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and in 1952 he specifically consecrated Russia. In the July 1917 apparition, the Lady stated that the war (World War I) would end but that a worse one could break out in the reign of Pius XI, who would not be elected until 1922. So Im torn. Nothing compares to our genuine change of heart. Sounds like a good thing to invite a few friends to. TFP is so outlandish in its views that it regards the current papacy as apostate and only one generation removed from the biblical end of time. The Supreme Court has a history of immoral decisions, such as declaring black slaves as property, permitting credit card companies to charge usurious interest rates, allowing the public sale of contraceptives, okaying the killing of unborn babies, and approving sodomy. 28, Spring 1999], in an article entitled, Documents sur la T.F.P.] I still think people should avoid TFP - Catholic Light - stblogs According to the Brazilian government, TFP sought to obtain legal guardianship over the minor children of parents dedicated to TFP and then turned their sons against both them and the mainstream church, regarded by TFP loyalists as an institutional fraud. What response should be given by Catholics to the apparitions of Our Lady of Ftima? For a donation of $400 or more, they will send a 30-inch statue of our Lady to a poor Catholic family in Africa. Another release seeks signatures on a petition to Pope Francis to save the family by opposing any change in Church teaching on marriage at the Synod on the Family in Rome next month. They come for 2 hours, have a slide presentation, pray a rosary, and talk to the kids about the Fatima message. Meanwhile this group has spread to 25 countries and the same damage to souls and vocations is now becoming apparent in the US. It is an interminable Way of the Cross led by the popes of the twentieth century.. They are VERY deceptive!! Can I get EWTNs confirmation re: America Needs Fatima and any other pertinent info regarding this topic? She also gave the children a secret, which included a vision of hell that caused Lucia to cry out. America Needs Fatima. Longtime teacher fired after discussing God in classroom, challenging evil LGBT school policy, A View Of The World From An Unlikely Place, Disney Is Going To Lose (Again) To Florida And Ron DeSantis, Regulatory Octopus Is Strangling Our Economy, The Pillar And Buttress Of Truth Upholds Catholic Morality, Crushed But Unbroken . I have donated to these in the past and they seem to do good work. Here are the links: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=733. Thank you for speaking out. As far as I can tell briefly looking at their website, this group is in communion with Rome. Is America Needs Fatima Legitimate? : r/Catholicism - Reddit Weyrich has also been quietly supporting a Brazilian-based group, Tradition, Family, and Property. Many highly idealistic and religiously motivated young men have been captivated by its persuasive program. . Hanover, PA 17331. Wouldnt you expect to find them at places and events where they can impress Catholic parents with how good they are? Special Course On Catholicism And Scripture (Chapter 18) The Joyful Mysteries of theContinue Reading, By FR. America Needs Fatima is actually the primary fund-raising front of TFP otherwise known as Tradition, Family & Property. Winning the heart and soul of America for Mary by spreading the Fatima message. MangaloreanCatholics@yahoogroups.com They got to see it up close when TFP cultivated relationships with them, until traditionalist leaders in Brazil such as the retired Bishop of Campos, Antonio de Castro Mayer, found out about Plinios secret doctrines. Some members will even go so far as to replace the words of the Hail Mary with Plinios name instead of Jesus and his mom, Donna Lucilla, instead of Mary. Despite threatening them, he was unable to get them either to admit that they were lying or to reveal the secret. At least thats what the textbooks say.But really, we have four branches of government.Thats because Congress the legislative branch has for decades delegated lawmaking authority to the unconstitutional fourth branch of theContinue Reading, By M.E. If the activities and mission of the group had genuine appeal to spiritually-inclined youths, it would not be necessary to manipulate them into joining or coerce them to make them stay. Yes, I am cautious, too, which is not a bad thing for me:The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP) is an organization of lay Catholic Americans concerned about the moral crisis shaking the remnants of Christian civilization. As one would expect, Our Lord and Our Lady have come on occasion to deliver a message. In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved; etc. BELGAUM BISHOP DEREK FERNANDESCONCELEBRATES MASS IN NON-LITURGICAL SAFFRON ROBES. Then, this law was passed in the land of Our Lady of Fatima, as if defying the Blessed Virgin's message of conversion, penance and warning of divine retribution. It would appear that we are on a par with Sodom of the Bible, and we know what happened to Sodom. TFPs response to all charges made against them is at Adrian Mascarenhas flays my Open Letter on the Amazon Synod to Cardinal Oswald Gracias, Yet again, Catholic priests pay obeisance to the Hindu elephant-god Ganesha, Mangalore Discalced Carmelite priests and Bethany Sisters nuns make offerings to Lord Ganesha, Shimoga Jesuit bishop Francis Serrao uses Poorna kumbham at Mass, Superstitious Brahminical/Hindu traditions displayed on charismatic retreat preacher Fr. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. Despite those real challenges, however, we must, with the help of the Holy Spirit, overcome them and reply positively to what Mary desires of us. + + As the Easter Octave unfolds, we have in the Gospel this enigmatic statement of Our Lord Jesus to Mary Magdalene:Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go toContinue Reading, By JAMES MONTI When asked upon her deathbed which of the virtues was the most important in the sight of God, the Italian lay mystic St. Gemma Galgani (1878-1903) answered emphatically, Humility, humility, the foundation of all the others (Fr. The girlLucia dos Santoswas seven years old and lived near the town of Fatima. In the spring of 1917, Lucia and her cousins Francisco and Jacinta Martos (then 7 and 6) began seeing an angel. Our daily version offers only some of what we publish weekly in print. Its on TFPs site. http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=517013&Pg=&Pgnu=&recnu, I am curious as to the standing of the organization, America Needs Fatima. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. Any group who asks for celibacy had damned well better be a recognized Catholic religious order or the local diocesan priesthood. Anonymous, My only experience with TFP is that theyre always at the national March for Life but theyre one of those groups that are obviously there only to be seen. Members of the TFP derisively refer to faithful Catholics who do attend the Tridentine Mass as trads. I was mocked one Sunday for reading the Mass to myself out of a missal. Lourdes (1858) America Needs Fatima - YouTube As a serious and well intentioned movement, it sought to strengthen the intellectual and religious formation of the members of that Congregation and, consequently, of the bi-weeklys readers. This hymn is however serious: a parody on one of the most revered hymns to the Virgin in the Catholic tradition, this is dedicated to Dona Lucilia, the mother of Plinio Corra de Oliveira: Lady Lucilia, pray for us Mother of Mister Doctor Plinio, pray for us Mother of the Doctor of the Church, pray for us Mother of our Father, pray for us Mother of the Unspeakable, pray for us Mother of all of us, pray for us, Mother of the coming centuries, pray for us Mother of the Axiological Principle, pray for us Mother of the Temperament of Synthesis, pray for us Mother of all purity, pray for us Mother of the Trans-sphere, pray for us Mother of Seriousness, pray for us Mother of the Counter-Revolution, pray for us Restorer of Temperaments, pray for us Source of Light, pray for us Procreator of Innocence, pray for us Preserver of Innocence, pray for us Consoler of Mister Doctor Plinio, pray for us Mediator of the Grand Retour, pray for us Mediator of all our graces, pray for us Dawn of the Kingdom of Mary, pray for us Lady Lucilia of the smile, pray for us Lady Lucilia of Flashes*, pray for us Most beautiful flower of all, pray for us Our refuge, pray for us Our consoler, pray for us Our help in the Bagarre, pray for us Reason of our perseverance, pray for us Vase of logic, pray for us Vase of metaphysics, pray for us Martyr of isolation, pray for us Queen of serene suffering, pray for us Queen of loveliness, pray for us Queen of serenity, pray for us Lady Lucilia, our Mother and Lady, help us Lady Lucilia, our greatest mediator before the Virgin, help us * In English (quoted in Tradizione Famiglia Propriet: Associazione cattolica o setta millenarista?, Rimini 1996, pp. "[citation needed], According to its website, approximately 2,000 rallies were held in 2007, 3,500 in 2008, 4,337 in 2009, 5,963 in 2010, and 7,515 in 2011.[12]. In 1917, Our Lady appeared at Fatima to three young seers with a message of warning and hope for humanity. Fr. . This request was made on December 10, 1925, when Lucia was a novice among the Dorothean Sisters. Although the response clearly answered Fr. We will continue to welcome your questions for the column as well. How'd we do in the question above? He is doing his own thing quite independently of the Church. http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/TFP-AmericaNeedsFatima.htm, This is only one of the many examples of how they are not protecting their flocks and do not seem to care. providing Catholic news and orthodox commentary for 150 years in our weekly They are urged to receive daily communion, but have scant regard for the Mass. The Brazilian TFP is finally in the hands of the ones faithful to the Pope again. See page 4That pretty well says it and settles it, in my view. Please explain. Stay away from TFP; right on, R.! The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated.. from renowned news sources, access to archives from The Wanderer from the past Q. The group has enemies but, to my knowledge, it is most sound, most Catholic, and loyal to the Vatican. 1965 dated April 16, 2010: From: Ever since Jesus ascended into Heaven, we have been approaching the Last Judgment. In an Aug. 10 tweet, he wrote: Praised be Jesus Christ! Fatima Today: In Defense of Private Revelation | Catholic Culture Franklin DSouza now runs interdenominational retreats. On Wednesday, Judge K. Michael Moore of the Southern District of Florida denied a petition fromContinue Reading, Priests have a duty to remind Catholics not to receive the Eucharist in a state of serious sin and to make confession easily available, a Nigerian cardinal said at the International Eucharistic Congress on Thursday. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. It is the misleading teachings of the group and the damage it has done to Catholic families that prompted the bishops warning, which characterized the group as a cult of personality (meaning that they are giving excessive or worshipful devotion to their leader) and also accused the group of abusing the name of Holy Mary. The official nature of the notice was subsequently confirmed by the Under-Secretary General of the Brazilian Conference, Fr. He said He was going to prepare a place for them, thenContinue Reading, Editors Note: This series on the Bible is from the book Catholicism & Scripture. It is not the statue, the Rosary, or devotion to the Blessed Virgin that is at issue. God has no obligation to keep rebellious men in existence, and He can appoint any given means of removing them from this world; above all, when it is supremely necessary to impress the gravity of mans obligations upon others (pp. our website. They replied they would. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. He said it was actually well done, and not heavy-handed or disrespectful of Rome. It is in accord with Gods revelation to us. On January 3, 1944, at the request of her bishop, Sr. Lucia did record it, placing the text in a sealed envelope, which in 1957 was transferred to the Holy See. KEVIN M. CUSICK Most parents have influence over their children only until they begin attending school. As Dr. Peter Kreeft has written: -kari, America Needs Fatima. Ive heard good things about the actual visit / presentation, but I have reservations about ANF. Question: If this group is bad, why do I see them at Catholic conferences and Right-to-Life marches?Answer: Where do you expect to find a cult group that wants to prey upon the best Catholic youths? Required fields are marked *. They make a consecration of slavery to the Blessed Mother and to Dr. Plinio. FRANKLIN DSOUZA LIGHTS THE HINDU OIL LAMP, Hindus lament Catholic appropriation of their religious symbols and rituals, Furore over Belagavi bishops saffron robe, Catholic Shivlings: The Real Presence entombed in a pagan phallic symbol. our site. John Mary ISJ, They are not a Catholic association at all. In other Latin American countries, TFP has been suspected of supporting political violence; in fact, Venezuelas government has outlawed the group. It is true, however, that some of the hierarchy oppose any cooperation with it because of some of its political and philosophical positions. It consists of a Fatima custodian taking a four-foot tall statue of Our Lady of Ftima to a person's home, with a crowning and enthronement ceremony, a short audio-visual about the story of Ftima, Portugal, and the praying of the rosary. From the MotherOfGod2 blog to which I was subscribed: America Needs Fatima [ANF] called me yesterday to ask if I would host the statue of Our Lady in my home. . But all the funds raised go directly to the TFP, which is a cult and which we faithful Catholics should NOT be supporting. from renowned news sources, access to archives from The Wanderer from the past -ONW, TFP is legally separate in each country. Fr. But is not God a lover rather than a warrior? A Challenge to Our Lady of Fatima - The American TFP In explaining the extermination of tribes and nations in the Old Testament, Fathers Leslie Rumble and Charles Carty wrote in volume three of Radio Replies: Lets remember our theology and our biology: like Father, like Son. (For the scriptural view of a false prophet, see Deuteronomy 18: 20-22) Rather, this cult is using the Blessed Virgin and exploiting the devotion that other Catholics have toward her for their own ends. Lucia would not die until 2005 at the age of 97. They claim to support the Pope, but Dez pointed out that many of the people in the org are RadTrad. Given the long-lasting esteem of the Church for Our Ladys message that she delivered at Ftima, the following seems to be an appropriate reply. According to Roman Catholic tradition, the Decade Prayer for the rosary, commonly known as the Fatima Prayer, was revealed by Our Lady of Fatima on July 13, 1917 to three shepherd children in Fatima, Portugal. Archived post. Adveniat, S. Giustina di Rimini, s. d., p. 17 ss). The spiritual formation that TFP gives to children unwittingly placed in its care fosters anti-clericalism and contempt for their fellow Catholics. 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The girlLucia dos Santoswas seven years old and lived near the town of Fatima. . Our Ladys words at Ftima remain informational and inspirational, guiding us to embrace the Gospel of Jesus Christ as never before. Any group who asks for celibacy had damned well better be a recognized Catholic religious order or the local diocesan priesthood. I have no idea what the heck to believe now. band together to rediscover our faith and share it with the world if we are to Sr. The best and most lasting appreciation that we can show Our Lord for the Ftima message is our sincere conversion. Magisterium have been this journals hallmarks for five generations. I myself was on their mailing list for a year before I uncovered the truth about them. -M, http://www.saint-mike.net/qa/fs/viewanswer.asp?QID=1991, I have just read this exhaustive forum post on these two organizations. Neither of these attitudes, nor many other of the aforementioned attitudes will ever be stated in public, however. But that means you belong to them, you dont leave them and you live with them in a life of celibacy. It also claimed that use of the hymn had long been discontinued. . I just discovered that they are not Roman Catholic but Traditionalist. We were convinced to reject and ignore any advice from them, to see this corruption in all our family members, and to treat them accordingly. Gruner. This is a de fide dogma. America Needs Fatima is not an official Catholic organization, although it collaborates with some of the clergy and laity, so you are free to donate to it if you are benefiting from some of its initiatives. TFP did not deny the allegation; it simply shifted the blame on over-zealous young followers, and claimed the hymn to be perfectly orthodox ((Carlo Alberto Agnoli e Paolo Taufer, TFP: la maschera e il volto, Ed. Getting Fatima Right | Catholic Answers Does anyone on [this list] know anything about this organization? The president, following the approximately 90-minute-long meeting, a keyContinue Reading, MIAMI (LifeSiteNews) A federal judge this week handed Florida Republican Gov. Understanding Ftima | Simply Catholic The current official version of this issue is given by Roberto de Mattei in his hagiography of Doctor Plinio (Roberto de Mattei, Il crociato del secolo XX: Plinio Corra de Oliveira, Piemme, Casale Monferrato, 1996, p. 249) -Neel. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Gruner has nothing to do with this group, TFP. Bishop on Tradition, Family and Property (America Needs Fatima), Here is a letter from Bishop Castro De Meyer on the group (he worked with them for years): This letter was published in the Campos daily, La Folha de Manhspan in 1991; the original text, however, is dated 1984, two years after Bishop de Castro Mayers break with TFP. Many leaders of the American right are and have been Catholics, including William F. Buckley, Jr., Phyllis Schlafly, Pat Buchanan, and Paul Weyrich.