If I remember correctly, the earliest date in the file refers to a paper relating to the Vizhay Forestry Department. Myth is like an air mattress. It is furthermore often stated that Lyudmila had blood inher stomachand that this would suggest that she was alive when her tongue was injured - or perhaps evenremoved by any ill-meaning force. Katabatic winds may occur in a large range of spatial and temporal scales. WebThe term katabatic (sometimes spelled catabatic) comes from the Greek katabasis, meaning descending and is the name used to refer to a drainage wind where high-density air flows downhill and into a plain, plateau or body of water. The explanation for this lies in the fact that a criminal case should have the dates of the first and last documents filed in that very case-file. Photos: Dyatlov Foundation / Richard Holmgren. The Anaris groups warming equipment stayed in their backpacks which were not reachable due to their numbhands. Igor Dyatlov would have been well acquainted with this, since he spent time in the area the previous year. Yes, the tent would have been better secured with the group inside, but the cooling effect under a gravity wind would eventually have killed them. Furthermore and perhaps most important arethe consequences of freezing fluids andputrefaction gases - this incombination withaheavy snow cover,whichcouldhave had distincteffects on bothbone- and softtissueduring postmortem. See Bedtime Stories and the episode Return to Dead Mountain, "The cultural mechanics of mystery: structures of emotional attraction in competing interpretations of the Dyatlov pass tragedy, "Mechanisms of slab avalanche release and impact in the Dyatlov Pass incident in 1959". New Dyatlov Pass Theory: Katabatic winds : r/AstonishingLegends The entire near-surface wind field over Antarctica is largely determined by the katabatic winds, particularly outside the summer season, except in coastal regions when storms may impose their own wind field. Weather A-Z - Katabatic Winds By Bill Giles OBE, "Continental-Scale Simulation of the Antarctic Katabatic Wind Regime", 10.1175/1520-0442(1991)004<0135:CSSOTA>2.0.CO;2, "Satellite Analyses of Antarctic Katabatic Wind Behavior", 10.1175/1520-0477(1989)070<0738:SAOAKW>2.0.CO;2, "An Extraordinary Katabatic Wind Regime at Terra Nova Bay, Antarctica", 10.1175/1520-0493(1989)117<0688:AEKWRA>2.0.CO;2, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katabatic_wind&oldid=1151620042, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, McKnight, TL & Hess, Darrel (2000). It isnt easy to let them go. . Any wounds inflicted by the impact ofa"snow slab", also makes the fleeing of1.5 kilometres down to the forest an overreaction- and an unrealictic featin regardof Tibo-Brignolle with his interpreted deadly blow to the head. The perhaps best example of a warm body having melted the snow is the layer found beneath Slobodin which shows that his slowly decreasing body temperature affected the snow below him. Thus, I believe that a rational approach is the best way to pay respect to the members of the group all of them personalities that likely wanted nothing else than letting us know how they might havespent their last hours in life. and more. To the right Andreas Liljegren is seen standing outside our tent, near the position of the 1959 campsite. I too feel that this case is probably settled, although I will probably also always wonder a little bit about the parachute mines Hi Amanda, yes parachute mines would be a thing. The tent was a converted single tent that was stitched together with a second length of canvas. As for the snow dens, in my opinion the deepest one containing the four of the group, was dug out from inside the ravine towards the higher slope in the west. 20.00, 2021). . Anything thatsticksup andremainsin that position - will likely stay in the way you left it. One should also keep in mind that Sasha and Lyuda could have acquired survivable fractures in their chest (causing internal bleeding)that eventually led to their symptomatic postmortem compressionsbelow almost threemeters ofheavysnow for about90 days. I see them succumbing to something very rapidly down in the woods off the pass. More than any other theory on the Dyatlov pass incident,that I have taken part of, I believe the Swedish disaster can hold an answer to the now 60 year oldmystery. Such winds are sometimes also called fall winds; the spelling catabatic winds is also used. katabatic wind anaris Well, if a falling wind did occur from the west, as the snow pattern indicates (if the pattern is post pitching), then the skies must have made it. Obviously they raised their tent laterally onthe slope. Itcan be seen until January 28, 2022 (narrator's voice in Swedish only). As Swedes we are not completely unexperienced with cold weather, but the brutal temperatures around the pass could be really challenging. hus, my hypothesis of the subsequent events is that the rest of the team, Slobodin, Dytlov and Kolmogorova never settled in the nearby bivouac for long that is,in thebivouac that was retrieved empty in May andstillprepared with branches of fir (photo no. TVC (Russian Documentary -Line of Defense) - The Dyatlov Pass - beyond a mountain of lies , 27 February 2019. In doing so, the less compacted snow next above the creek was very soft. With unthought of details, we could then apply those to our personal theories. They had brought with them food for a days tour, but also rescue packs in the form of wind sacks, radio equipment and shovels. These are comparable to so called, Dyatlov pass and the forest. This specific wind is alsoknown asafall wind,adownslope windor agravity wind. In fact, sometimes the ice was so thin due to the underlying movement of the water, that it was a danger to use the open river for skiing. Again, the uneven and scooped surface of the snow is very evident in the photo next below (no. ARCDOC Arkeologisk Dokumentation / Tidsresenren, Richard Holmgren, Follingegatan 29, 596 33 Sknninge, SWEDEN, Denna hemsida:www.arcdoc.se / www.tidsresenaren.se / www.arkeologiresor.se, The Swedish-Russian Dyatlov Pass Expedition 2019, The 2019 expedition narrated by Bedtime Stories. (10)Thus, my theory to the groups death is based on the sudden event of akatabatic wind. Hi Robin! Believing in U.F.Os was a belief at the time . Depending on the exact location of these prints, it could perhapsrevealthe last actions of the groupbefore leaving the tent -how ahurriedteamspread out alongside the tent in order to effectively bury the wind battered canvas with snow? (6) The understanding of the sudden strong winds that surprised and killed the people at Anaris, can be defined as akatabaticwind (from the Greek'skatabatikos, meaning "descending"). I think these actionsareimportant, because many would argue that fleeing from the tent and warmequipmentin such conditions,would mean certain death. If the diary indeed belonged to Zolotaryov and a pen was present, itis in stark contrast to his massive chest wounds that many believe made him inoperable. These small changes in air pressure are barely noticeable on the meteorologists' weather maps and could still easily lead to the devastating effects that we have seen in the Anaris accident - for that matter, even during our own night on the slopes of Kholat Syakhl. Thus, this maybe yet another shortcoming when separating wounds as ante- or postmortem in the original examination. In February of 1978, dammed cooled air was here put in motion very quickly with devastating consequences for a group of nine skiers. I really appreciate your approach, because it makes us better and it makes us think about the case in a sober way. We can for example learn from their journals that the construction needed overall and constant small repairs. M.Becker interviewsG. Wolf(in English). The first stage of their skiing tour involved an undertaking uphill of about three kilometers - this over a ridge which made them sweaty and tired. Thanks! But some things remain odd. As Swedes we are not completely unexperienced with cold weather, but the brutal temperatures around the pass could be really challenging. 17-19. And, thank you so much for your words about the presented material! 15). The cooling effect couldthen have been around minus 60degrees Celsius. A tent that is not built for extreme winds, would rather swiftly tear to pieces if confronted with falling winds - this, unless it was saved in seconds. (24)One may alsostressanother problematic occurrence that is seldomraised. For some reason they are down in the woods under dressed for the severe conditions. Bedtime Stories (YouTube Channel). Im really honored! Myself,working as an archaeologist and with the background already explained,I naturallycame to approachthe case through matters that were familiar to me. In the case of the Santa Ana, for example, the wind can (but does not always) become hot by the time it reaches sea level. In all there were now nine persons with four wind sacks andsleeping bags, fighting for survival. Our sleeping bags that could endure temperatures to minus 35, delivered satisfactory. This prevented warm air to circulate insideand created far too cold sleeping bags. ", 8 March 2021. Dagens Nyheter - Svensk expedition i Djatlovs fotspr exakt 60 r efter desnatten (10 oktober 2019). Yours is the most rational theory I have read. Thank you so much for this input. In this case the layingtent could perhaps have steered away most of the wind -. To the right our own tent with its stove in action, here seen halfway into the Auspiya valley, somewhere afore the groups Jan 30 camp in 1959. You're not only one hell of a expedition partner anda person to laugh with -you alsohave an incomparable eye for details,always ready to project the world a bit differently. They are not as fact based as one would first believe. Andreas had his own personal questions and expectations from such an undertaking. Subsequently thesurrounding snow was blown away by the wind(photo no. Gnter Wolf explains the basis for katabatic winds in the, (Extra material from theSwedish documentary -. Igor Dyatlov would have been well acquainted with this, since he spent time in the area the previous year. Not least, does it show the hopelessness of staying in the tent during strong winds, but also a picture of what Kolmogorova, Igor and Slobodin went through, also in vain. Even if the pathologist in the Dyatlov case only mentioneda red substance, we can presumethat it in fact was blood as a result of hypothermia. But if we assume that the bivouac with the four lastly found of the group, had not collapsed (which I propose), then perhaps they would have made it during the night in order to retrieve their buried equipment in a less forceful weather. Agree your Dyatlov theory, and add some common sense thoughts: fire started when shelters to rest 2 hrs, before occupation/extinguished in less than 90 min. TVC (Russian Documentary -Line of Defense) - The Dyatlov Pass - beyond a mountain of lies , 27 February 2019. On the large sloping glaciers in the Antarctic and Greenland, the Coriolis force becomes important and downslope flows are not pure katabatic winds [e.g., Kottmeier, In fact, we escapedan extreme blizzardwith only onenight's difference. I would rather suggest that a bivouac housing the four people, collapsed and trapped them inside. 14.20. Katabatic Winds | AMNH - American Museum of Natural History They write new content and verify and edit content received from contributors. katabatic wind, also called downslope wind, or gravity wind, wind that blows down a slope because of gravity. It occurs at night, when the highlands radiate heat and are cooled. In the next minute or even seconds, the wind got so strong that any tent would have blown away or into pieces - this when the gravity windtipped over Kholat's northwestern edgefrom the adjacent western valley. In February of 1978, dammed cooled air was here put in motion very quickly with devastating consequences for a group of nine skiers. As Andreas and I are heavy drinkers (water), it was hard to get sufficient with liquid. By comparing the eventswith a case from my home country Sweden, I think that a new approach with interesting details of comparisoncould be very illuminating. Many details are still today being discovered. Inevitably and as we shall see,I believe that this last portion of the event can give us an idea of what Slobodin, Kolmogorova and Dyatlov went through after being unable to save their friends. Actually and as an ironical coincidence, the Anaris accident likewise involved nine persons, two young women and seven menof which one survived. I think these actionsareimportant, because many would argue that fleeing from the tent and warmequipmentin such conditions,would mean certain death. However after walking from the tent, they likely started this procedure immediately. In the context of adamaged skull, it should also be mentioned that any generatedcrackmay enhancethrough repeated cycles of freezing and thawingbetween the time of recoveryand examination. Eventually,apathy usually kicks in. Photo: Richard Holmgren, hat happens next on the slope could perhaps be described as a rumbling noise of a wind rapidly escalating from above (northwest). 14.04. stersundsposten De frdas till Sibirien 60 r efter mystiska ddsfallen testar utrustningen i Tnndalen: Ingen har tidigare kt strckan p skidor (23 januari 2019). /R, I got kidnapped by the yeti/menk I bearly escaped alive it was really pissed-off. Previous assumptions have revolved around why the bodies were found outside the only located bivouac and that the bodies' injuries arose from a fall into the ravine. The wind is quite extreme. 1959 and on the day 60 years later. Other than the issueof drinking water, the cold temperatures affected the food and the snacks in the backpacks. Without cooking, almost nothing could be eaten during the trip - such as the brought about dried fruits, which were frozen into lumps of ice. Myself,working as an archaeologist and with the background already explained,I naturallycame to approachthe case through matters that were familiar to me. 14.20 Furthermore, if it perchance was blood in her stomach, it could have been a result of many other causes. SR P4 Extra (Stockholm) med Titti Schultz - (intervju med Andreas & Richard om Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019 & 1959), 19 februari, ca. The Through the Auspiya valley, southeast of the pass, we were in total four persons me, Andreas Liljegren and our experienced Russian colleagues, Ekaterina Zimina and Artem Domogirov from Yekaterinburg. The missing eyes and a tongue,should be considered a natural cause of decomposition. Remaining on the slope in the swift wind with extreme subzero temperatures was no option - the only way to stay alive was away from the slope. Aftonbladet (Plus) Djatlovmysteriet har gckat vrlden i ver 60 r. This could potentially have laid the foundation for the unfortunate events that unfolded between the 1st and 2nd of February in 1959. At the end of the day its they were met with unexpected, sudden, very bad weather. 06.45. (27) The katabatic wind derives from the Greek wordkatabasis (), which means descending. As long as they were in constant movement, the better. Cheers! Their productions combine stunning illustrations with well researched and spellbinding narration. It is not impossible that the seeminglyenergetic struggle up the slopeby the last survivors, wasa last chanceattemptto fetcheqipment fordigging out their friends. Certain zippers also malfunctioned and the soft but strong G-1000 cloth in our jackets and trousers (the classic Swedish brand of Fjllrven) simply turned into crispbread. Your experience and theory makes better sense than any I have read thus far. [3] In Greenland these winds are called piteraq and are most intense whenever a low pressure area approaches the coast. According to Vladimir Askinadzi, present at the scene,Zolotaryov reportedly even had a pen and a paper in his hands which gives the impression of being rather in control. Is there any eng/fin read on 1978 accident? A wound in his armpit is perhaps a revealing sign of slipping down against branches. . ur sleeping bags that could endure temperatures to minus 35, delivered satisfactory. Another type of warm wind occurs on the leeward side of the mountain ranges. Obviously they raised their tent laterally onthe slope. If it would have beeneasy, they wouldnthave been there in the first place. Due to its limited heat capacity, the surface heats "The Barber" has a local reputation for its coldness. Apile of freshly cutfirewood was furthermore stacked around our stove in order to both dry the wood and to prevent things like sleeping bags to accidently makecontact with the heater during the night. We only had to endure minus 43 degrees Celcius during the night in the pass this on the site where the Dyatlov group pitched their tent their last night. at each end of the tent still upright as well? .and go on the site VOILE ET MOTEUR for comments ) . And, the prerequisite for a gravity wind is possible due to the topography. After years of searching, I believe this is the best theory. This warming decreases the density of the air, causing it to rise. e know for a fact, from the series of last photos taken by the Dyatlov group, that their weather conditions worsened. My opinion, in the meantime, favors meteorological reasons behind the groups death. Unlike the group in 1959 we had half of our equipment filled into individual sledges. Your knowledge and effort has been of great benefit foran entireworld. As Yuri D and Yuri K seemed to have died first, there was no chance for them since they were exposed to winds while making the fire. This area in France corresponds almost exactly to the orography of the "Kholat", where lee waves are regularly seen and are the basis for the weather on 1/2 February 1959. The tent was also pitched with the gable against the gradient and the wind. True, they were a really strong group. This low temperature was furthermore complemented by an immense storm - although not being akatabaticwind, it still would have had a force enough to put us in an extremely hazardous situation. But by this time their feet and hands were probably gone forever. While Doroshenko and Krivonischenko took responsibility for making a fire, the others started to dig out TWObivouacs, one which was retrieved empty in May and likely meant for Slobodin, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova (photo no. Sixty years have passed since the terrible events in the Dyatlov pass. Thus, this lead toan uneasyfeeling whencrawling out of the sleeping bag,having to put certaincold clothes on before themorning routines. I have read your article and it is very good. The stone belt below the tent would even have had the potential to cause fractures and open wounds. In the Auspiya valleythe temperature fluctuated between minus 20 and 35 degrees Celsius, with an average temperature of around minus 25 during the days and slightly belowminus 30 during the nights. Along the Auspiya river it was easy to puncture the ice near the shoreline. April 2019. Ulcers and multiple bleedings in the stomach as a result of severe hypothermia are quite normal. kl. I have personally experienced weaker but similar circumstances belowthe glacier of Mt Ararat some years ago. Considering that this was the Dyatlov group'sfirst larger uphill challenge during their tour, carrying heavy backpacks alongside a possible time pressure to reach beyond the pass, the questionmight be pertinent - consideringdetails such astheir light dressing in the tent duringthelast evening. In the middle of this scenario stood a very vulnerable tent. Considering the seemingly dimlight (? For the Dyatlovgroup the snow depth of their made bivouac(s) was well chosen considering the forceful conditions, but as we shall see, with another devastating effect. The East Antarctic wind perturbation produces both local and remote impacts along the Antarctic continental margin. The presentation is far from a scientific one as you can see and I share this with many other theories. Katabatic winds are slope winds that occur over ice sheets and glaciers, and which arise due to the radiative cooling of the surface, which forms a layer of dense, cold air that flows down the ice slope under its own weight ( Davolio and Buzzi 2002 ). But perhaps most relevant is the postmortem process that a modern forensic medical studymay interpret differently from that ofVozrozhdenny's examinationin 1959 - see for exampleVladimir Nagaev's study from 2017/18(read more here). Before getting to theposition on the mountain we also wanted, likewise to the group in 1959, tryto ski throughthe Auspiya valley inpristine snow and to set up camps in the estimated positions of 1959. SR P3/P4 Vaken med Robert Frank Andreas och Richard vernattade i mystiska Djatlovpasset (intervju med Andreas & Richard efter Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019)10 februari 2019, kl. What is important to know is also that katabatic winds (gravity winds) are much stronger along the slope but not necessarily that strong in the forest. Wind speeds regularly exceeded 20 m Cheers! This particular day the windacceleratedand the physical situation of the group gradually affected their condition. When you arrive to the pass you are really exhausted. He has made orographic and meteorological analyzes of both the Dyatlov pass event and the Swedish Anaris accident in 1978. The actual pattern demonstrates heavily wind swept snow, where vortexes have hollowed out scoop-shaped cavities. SR P1 Vetenskapsradion Historia med Tobias Svanelid - "Ny teori och rapportom mystiska Dyatlovolyckan 1959" (intervju med Richard Holmgren) 4 februari 2020. frn kl. Hufvudstadsbladet-Svensk expedition i Djatlovs fotspr exakt 60 r efter desnatten (13 oktober 2019). New theories by JohanGaume, Alexander Puzrinand Richard Holmgren. (20)The next series of important events are harder to fully comprehend, but likely the experienced group purposely split apart temporarily for survival procedures in the forest. ARCDOC, Archaeological Documentation. Ill do my best - have lenience. In any case your points are important and should be weighed in. Good that the outline made sense for you. would argue that the Dyatlov groupacted in the best possible way under the prevailing circumstances - nothing irrational at all and totally in line with their experience and professionality. Many thanks for your input! Auspiya valley. Hypothermia means thatthebody core temperature sinks below 35 degrees Celsius. To the far right the grave of Z. Kolmogorova decorated with flowers. This type of falling wind can appear when cold air over a glacier or a mountainous area starts to flow down a gradient. What was your contingency plan in the case of a katabatic wind? Thus, I believe that a rational approach is the best way to pay respect to the members of the group all of them personalities that likely wanted nothing else than letting us know how they might havespent their last hours in life. 11) One of the last photos taken by the Dyatlov group - approaching their final campsite on Kholat Syakhl. because they do not know they are creasy and they do not know they are going around in circles . We believed that this would ease the weight from the skis and thus prevent us from sinking too deep into the snow - which fortunatelyalso becamethe case. In most places where the phenomenon appears, it usually does so at night when the temperature drops. The group of two women and seven men were then overtaken by wind speeds up to at least 20 m/s an explosive scenario that erupted out of a rather calm and pleasant skiing tour. Webto day during the lull period of the Katabatic wind. Theres nothing in it but its wonderfully comfortable and deflation causes an uncomfortable jolt. Thisusually gives symptoms offatigue, impaired coordination ability, confusion and hallucinations. 18) The retrieved empty bivouac, prepared with branches of fir. They were likewise eager to experience parts of the Auspiya route and camping at the specific places of the Dyatlov group, such as the slope of Kholat Syakhl. . Lnk 2 One of the photos far below (no. It occurs at night, when the highlands radiate heat and are cooled. One of theseUPI-students, Yuri Koptelov, reported footprints as if people were positioned shoulder to shoulder. Actually there was no elaborate plan, except for keeping the woods in mind and to have all gear reachable beside and inside each sleeping bag. With all due respect, there is little in common with Anaris group, which was caught outside, with jackets, shoes, etc, and tried to go "inside", but could not make a comfort "inside" and died from exposure; and Dyatlov's, which did exactly the opposite. A storm would give you time to dress and secure or dismantle a tent properly. The first stage of their skiing tour involved an undertaking uphill of about three kilometers - this over a ridge which made them sweaty and tired. In my view, thismakes matters more complicated and likely adds another unnecessary element to the understanding ofthecourse of events (see passage no. If it would have beeneasy, they wouldnthave been there in the first place. This is not a wise choice for creating a suitable sleeping surface, but vital to succumb impending winds from above. The buildup of high density cold air over the ice sheets and the elevation of the ice sheets brings into play enormous gravitational energy. Therefore I would like to make a statementto the contrary - that, if the weather would have been calm, then any appearing and suddenly disappearing footprintswould really have posed a problem. 17). In any case we had a hard time keeping up with the Dyatlov pace. ThusI believe that NOserious or life-threatening injuries should be connected to any event inside or around the tent. The gradient of Kholat Syakhl is furthermore far to gentle and the distance to the top much too short to create momentum. Photo: Dyatlov Foundation. Other regions may have a similar but lesser effect, leading to "blue ice" areas where the snow is removed and the surface ice sublimates, but is replenished by glacier flow from upstream. . Aware of the dangers of conceivable strongwinds, we pitched the tent with the gablefacing the gradient (photo no. The missing eyes and a tongue,should be considered a natural cause of decomposition. Interaction of katabatic winds and nearsurface temperatures in Thank you. In the case of Dubinina, it is likely connectedto her position over a stone shelf and with Sashatakingmost of the weight in his central position of the shelter - and/or theground characteristicsunder his body. Katabatic winds are often gentle, but I did Photo: Dyatlov Foundation. (7) Let us now apply the scenario of akatabaticwind affecting the Dyatlov hikers in 1959. Kudos to a great production team for presenting our effort in this thrilling manner - not the least for being cartoonized, which really felt awarding. Now, any person that havent experienced falling winds, would probably argue that no wind in the world can blow up this fast and with such a great force -that there would at leastbetime to put on clothes and/or shoes. Before the trip we actually asked ourselves how it would be possible to spend 14 hour inside thetent we can assure the reader that we never touched any of the game boards brought along. I will try to answer you in the best way I can and if I can. Buthopefully the ideas canprovide a general outline of aperhapsrather commonsensicalevent. There are several caseswhere changes in gastric mucosa have been seen in hypothermia-related deaths. For instance, winds such as the fhn and chinook are rain shadow winds where air driven upslope on the windward side of a mountain range drops its moisture and descends leeward drier and warmer. In archaeology, I have dealtwith several excavations where the understanding of a certain mythwasinescapable. ", 8 March 2021. M.Becker interviewsG. Wolf(in English). this protected by thesnow dugout that also shelteredthe folded canvas. Many thanks to myexpedition partner Andreas Liljegren, for input, for sober ideas and for awakening thoughts. This site is very informative and I would and will recommend it to any of my colleagues wishing to also study this magnificent case. It is very hard to move forward with facts at this stage, since much of the material is contradictory and hard to fact-check due to the long time that passed. I do have a few questions please: Hi and thank you for your comment and ambition to clear out some questions. The same is to say about Dubinina, laying close but in a different angle. If pushed against a skull, the outcome would likely cause damage but without leaving visable traces of tissue on the probe.