JavaScript is disabled. Holland and Netherlands Ideas :: Europa Universalis IV General Discussions NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING Ludi et Historia 159K subscribers Join Subscribe 10K Share Save 204K views 10 months ago #eu4 #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands In This EU4. What idea groups are best for building "tall" nations? : eu4 - Reddit Development in my tall Netherlands Game : r/eu4 - Reddit Scan this QR code to download the app now. Y2FjODY0ZGQzMzkzZTBiMDY0ZGExZmU5YzE4ZTUzZTE0ODA1ZDVlMDU0OWM5 You must log in or register to reply here. Advice about a tall fun nation | Paradox Interactive Forums *shrug*. If you're going exploration 3rd, you might as well grab diplo and just steal other peoples colonies. Holland - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki - Paradox Wikis Try to make the silk road! I currently have Economic and Quality ideas. All rights reserved. For the practical guide on idea groups, with analysis and recommendations, see Idea groups guide.. As a nation develops technologically, it unlocks the ability to gain additional idea groups.Investing into a full idea group can take a long time and cost several decades worth of power. I did start with Exploration first though, every time I'm playing as a minor (Flanders for example) I pick Exploration first. Europa Universalis 4 Wiki Active Wikis AoW: Planetfall Cities: Skylines Crusader Kings 3 Empire of Sin Europa Universalis 4 Hearts of Iron 4 Imperator: Rome Prison Architect Stellaris Surviving Mars Surviving the Aftermath Vampire: The Masquerade Victoria 3 That's how I played my campaign. You are using an out of date browser. Your access to this site was blocked by Wordfence, a security provider, who protects sites from malicious activity. If you want to dev the shit out of provinces, Hamburg or Aachen could do. YTgyMzVjYzcxYTI0YTU2NmFkNmE0MTRiYTAzODNjMDM2MDdjNzk0NTM3NWM4 Best idea groups for playing tall? : r/eu4 - Reddit I've been playing Venice without blobbing because I wanted to be a small but powerful nation. Playing tall is my preferred playstyle, and I can tell you that you can play a fun, successful, tall campaign just about anywhere, even mountainous Switzerland (one of my favorite areas and my most recent tall campaign). Playing tall in EU IV is a playstyle that many players enjoy. Espionage may be fun, just to give you something to do via support rebels as well as the -20% reduce AE when you do decide to take a few more HRE provinces. Let them come. MzIwMzllZGU4NjQ5YTk1NTM2NGE0Nzk4NDM1YTNkNDdkY2E2NmVkMjkyNTAw ZTc4Mzg4YzQwZWQyYTBjMjllOGI1NWZiMDE5NGUxZTgwZTFkNGU0OGEwZmM2 Archived post. . Maybe administrative for mercenary cost bonuses. The rest is ok, i don't usualy go for plutocracy because it's not available but it looks good, +10% Morale +20% Mapower Recovery +2.5 Merc Discipline seem pretty good for a single idea group. Gives your military an edge, economy helps keep the ducats flowing so you can build infrastructure and it unlocks a +5% discipline policy. I just wanted to know which ideas are best for this and in what order I should adapt them. Traditions tech cost -10% and idea cost -10%; first idea development cost -20%. MzI5ZGYwMjViNDYzNjljODRkNTYzYTJkMzlkNjE1OTFhMmZmMmE1Mjc2Zjdm In This EU4 Holland Guide we start as Holland, get independence from Burgundy and Play Tall with few provinces and get more income than anyone elseHere's the version of this video where you fight the independence war! By this I mean I don't know which one to focus on at any given time. Innovative sucks, i would switch it with humanist or expansion for helping expansion into Asia/Africa or economic if you want to play tall. After countless patches and DLCs, you can finally comfortably build up your nation without conquering vast swathes of land! JavaScript is disabled. ZGFhNTIzNTRlMzAxZjRmN2QxZWJmMzcwZmVhYzcyYzZhMmRmMTkyNzI1MmE5 Egalitarians prefer freerange, organic xenoburgers. Lucrative trade opportunities, locally and overseas, have resulted in a swift evolution for the country into one of the first capitalist countries in the world. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I think diplomatic and trade ideas are well suited for building small but tall countries (ally to fight your wars, trade for money which gives you mercs). YjIwYjI3MTRjYjYxMzI0ZTYwMTg4YmQ0NTQ1NjlmNWVkZGE2MmEzZDU0YWVm Mjk5MWQ4MjI0MDM2ZjRlNDA2YzFhYWRjYmMwMzg3ODY2Njk0ZTdhZTJkNDVm TOP 10 Playing Tall Formable Nations In EU4 - YouTube MGNlYTQ0YTYxOTc5NjlmYTI5NzI5ZWE0YWRlNzEyM2M1ODJkM2NmZGUxNmY3 Scan this QR code to download the app now. Netherlands - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki - Paradox Wikis Forming the Netherlands, what idea groups should I pick? : r/eu4 - Reddit If you believe Wordfence should be allowing you access to this site, please let them know using the steps below so they can investigate why this is happening. I own every Franconian province, and only them. Nzc3M2ZjMTk0ZmRkYzA3NGNhMWEyOGQ5NmY5NzI2NjAyY2M1ZWJkNGYzNDIz Archived post. Dithmarschen has the RT bonus as well decent military ideas and quite solid memey missions (there's one that gives permanent +goods modifier for example). I don't really know what to do do now, bare bulliyng the Ming (who is already falling appart as I've eaten all his tributaries), or wage unterminable wars against Spain for the few isles they have in Philippines. Lucrative trade opportunities, locally and overseas, have resulted in a swift evolution for the country into one of the first capitalist countries in the world. My Idea Groups for Holland. What do you think are good idea groups for small but tall nations? YjI1OWMxNjY4NTA0N2QwMzgxZWU2ZGJjN2YyMzhlZGIyNTc1YTlmZWVjY2Y5 5. universe2844 3 yr. ago. Yzg0MzAxYTBmMDFhNDkxNmM5ZTE1Njg1OWZhYTllZWY0YjBiZTJhZmRiMGQw I've just played a Ayuttaia game that I'm dropping, because it becamed quite boring after I united the whole Malayan lands, becoming N1 in dev and income, and also due to lack of events or mechanics for SE Asia. Cookie Notice OWZlYmQyMzE5ODljZmYyZTk1YWVlN2JiYTYwZWFkNWUzNTMyZTU0YzllNTk1 I'm on my second Holland -> Netherlands play through on this patch. I recently did a run as the Netherlands as Holland and man, first time I felt a navy was actually worth something - with a sweet navy limit of 400 ships, the amount of money you can get is insane, I think I had a positive profit of 400 ducats a month. MWUyZjg3ZDRiMjUwYWY0MGQ1M2ZlYTRiZjk3ZDgwNDZjMDUwY2MyODg5ZWM3 A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. MDA0NzY3YmQ3ODk3NGQyOTkwMDhiMjNmNzQyMjYxNGEwMWU0YTMzOTRkNWIz It may not display this or other websites correctly. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. I think econmoy is good early idea for netherlands as finsining it has 20% reduction in development costs. 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Yjg5MjUwZWFiMTExZjU4Njc2NDI0NzNjODJlNzliZWRjNTNjMGIyNGI5YjQ4 I find Administrative as a first ideagroup to be even more awesome for Holland. -----BEGIN REPORT----- NmI3ZjY5NDU0ZjhlNTE2YzZkMTNjMmFlNTA2YTI0NzViZTIxNDE1Njg5NjRl Tall Holland to Netherlands guide : r/eu4 - Reddit You can colonize and have probably the most cost effective land for deving in Europe. For more information, please see our New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So my current goal is to do a tall Holland to Netherlands run and form a colonial empire. Both have +0.3 RT in their ideas. They do start in an awkward position though. What we mean by playing tall and the obstacle to getting it right NDVhNTBmMTA1ZjNiZjQzYjkzMTVmMWQ1ODhkNWUyNWUzY2JmMmM1NjMyZDky Your lands are very rich, you are at an end node, and you can colonize if you want. Also, with provinces being as highly developed as they are, the corecost reduction is especially sweet. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). The challenge mostly depends on your starting situation and how much you limit yourself throughout the campaign. MTVhMzA0MDNkM2I1NTMyNzg2NGJjNDEzYmE3NTI1MjYzMmYyNDIxNjc3YjMz YWUxYmEzYjcxZDViODc1MDZkYTllMTQ1ZWMwY2VlODljN2Q0MmY0NzBiY2I5 N2E5NTFjNGI1ZDAyMDJhMjAwMmI0MTI1MDYxOGVjOWUwYmQ5ZjY5Y2RhNmQ0 NjgwNWQyMGEyNzA1YWUwZTU0NGZiNTI1N2IxOTQ0NjY3YTZjZDlhYTJmOTBi ZjBlN2NjYjIxZWFjZmY5ZTIyYzg3MGM2MTdlMThlZTQxYTczMGYzYjdmNzk5 eyJtZXNzYWdlIjoiZTZlMDJhOTRkZTQzNmVlMTQyMzYxOTQ0NGUzOTljMzg0 I would go with Exploration, you want to be as competitive as you can be in the coloizing game. Archived post. NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING - YouTube Awesome game, first decades are challenging since you can't expand very fast but if you limit yourself to the low countries and conquest of coastal centers of trade in Africa + Indian Ocean + Far East you can rack over 1.000 ducats/months of income and >1.000 development in the low countries alone (lowest dev province at 30 . As well has reducing interest on your loans that has proven vital for my play through when involved in wars against austria. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive.An EU4 1.33 Guide for Holland and eventually Netherlands or Eu4 Netherlands in which we do the EU4 independence war against eu4 burgundy who could have been eu4 lotharingia except it died cause it's just eu4 burgundy and we're eu4 holland omg this is amazing bla blaThe following DLC is used in this series:Eu4 Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.#eu4 #eu4holland #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands OGYzMzVlNjIzNWM4OTQ4Y2Q4MmM0MjliNzAzNTdiMTVhYmEyZmQwNGVhZTc5 The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above Youtube members in the save-games Discord channel. NTFmMzVlNzA3ZTM0OThlZmQwYTM2ZmVlMDkwZDJjMjIyMzgwNTY0MmJhZmEw EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Republic#Republican_Dictatorship. This guide covers the opening moves, getting independence form Burgundy, diplomacy, estates, alliances, subjects, missions, national ideas, and more! I also kept the Rothenburger ideas since forming Franconia (I wanted to have no penalties from heretic provinces, which is their first idea). A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Some other suggestions would be Denmark, Bavaria, Papacy, and Naples. Dutch ideas - Europa Universalis 4 Wiki - Paradox Wikis EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, When Murder Solves Everything - a CK3 Flanders AAR, http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198096305352/. My Idea Groups for Holland | Paradox Interactive Forums 62K views 1 year ago An Europa Universalis 4 Top 10 Playing Tall Formable Nations focusing on the best formable national ideas for Eu4 playing tall which is going to illustrate the EU4. You are using an out of date browser. Missions Main article: Dutch missions MmZmMzFiMmJmYzcyNjBjYzJjMDRmNmQyNGExMzJlZjQ5MzlmNWNkZTNmMDc5 https://youtu.be/N97_INwKhBI PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ludiethistoria TWITCH http://www.twitch.tv/ludiethistoria DISCORD https://discord.gg/TjNRkGnYkwCheck out my Twitch Vods Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCri3qYX24n8cpPp2g4xtA4Q You can Also Check My Personal Channel Here! https://www.youtube.com/c/Ludisan More Starting Moves Guides in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrsZC4e_2qJ_CfLMUMsP4d2ylMwdxWPrE Europa Universalis IV is a grand strategy games published by Paradox Interactive. YTA1YTk5MjhhYmVmYjI3NWRmZjUxN2Y1ZGU3MDU0ZWI3ZjQ4ZGJlM2MxNjY1 ZGJmMDAyODI0ZTA0YjE4MDExZmI5NThmMTAzYTVhMzdhOWY5OGVjYzJhMzA0 Switzerland is fun playing defensive and using your troops as mercs to earn money. Y2ZkNjRiZTlmYjU1YWQ3NWJkNmNkZmYxMzY1N2NhYmZmMzhiMzE2NDQ2ZWY4 The act of conquering the Netherlands is simple to do. I do not plan on expanding any further. Thread starter Johnhawkwood; Start date Apr 23, 2018; . ZThmNzM5NTM4NWViN2IzOThhOTY5NGM2Mjc4ODg4YTg5MjUzNTYxYzY0NzIx YjMxMWI5YWJlZTg2MDM1MzNmMjk4NGNkNDJmYWY3YjVjMjcyMjRjNzEwODUw You must log in or register to reply here. If you are sitting too long at 100%war score burgundy will automatically realease you without any penalties and the ability to get the BI, but if the BI goes to Spain or Austria you'll have a hard time forming the dutchies. As Holland into the Netherlands, you want to go colonial so exploration and expansion are mandatory. ZTU3NGY1YjE5NDllNjliZTEyMGQ0ZTM5NTlkNTgzZTcwZGQ2ZjllZGE2MjA2 With economy and dutch ideas your capital has -40% development costs. After watching this EU4 Holland guide you will ensure a great start for yourself, and you will have an easy and fun campaign. ODhiZTk1MDQyMGZjNjAxZTUxMDEyZjdiZmJjYWJjMjk2ZTNmZDU3MDFhNjZj Oh and the only DLC I have is common sense and art of war just so you know. Usually, I take economic and quantity and take exploration and expansion as third and fourth idea groups. Furthermore, dutch national ideas are designed for tolerance, economy, etc, so taking ideas for this is sort of overkill . What idea groups should I be looking at down the road? I prefer waging war against Burgundy, so as to release the other minors, but you can get your independence for free if you manage to get the support of all three rivals. Scan this QR code to download the app now. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING Ludi et Historia 159K subscribers Join Subscribe 10K Share Save 204K views 10 months ago #eu4 #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands In This EU4. if you want a really tall campaign take breda in your independence war. NmQ3YmIxMjI5OWQzODA4NTY1M2JiYjY0N2RkNDAwYjFjMzY5NWI1YTEwZDA3 Peasant republic. All rights reserved. MWVkMWI3ZDA5ZjE0YjdlODgyZDcyOTIxMWUzMzQ2ZGNhN2M5MzBjNDg4NzEw Zjc1ZTllNDQ1OTYzNWQyNTFmYzMyY2MyMzE5YmVmMGI4YWM0OWIzZDA5ZWY0 2nd Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWpgb8x6L5pCuakP_137lqADiscord: https://discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHdTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theredhawkliveTwitter: https://twitter.com/TheRedHawkYTBecome a member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRjWr3pAEaBvi0u6bdexTw/joinIn this video titled EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland I make an EU4 Guide for Holland for Europa Universalis 4 1.33 France. This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive.An EU4 1.33 Guide for Holland and eventually Netherlands or Eu4 Netherlands in which we do the EU4 independence war against eu4 burgundy who could have been eu4 lotharingia except it died cause it's just eu4 burgundy and we're eu4 holland omg this is amazing bla blaThe following DLC is used in this series:Eu4 Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.#eu4 #eu4holland #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands Venetia going into the the mamelukes and then going for Hormuz etc. Best ideas for Netherlands :: Europa Universalis IV General Discussions -----END REPORT-----. Copy Prussia. Even tall, you can use the extra diplo relations for more allies and diplomats for more curry favors. Quality, offensive and economic make a good trio for tall nations. ZGU1ZWRlNGE5NWY5Y2JjMGIxZDdkNjJhNzgzNzA4MDI1NzkwYWNmYWEyYmMz playing as an opm the entire game is an even smaller chunk of the community than building up a whole region (say Ireland or the Netherlands as an example). Privacy Policy. Thanks for the replies everyone but without the ability to ask country`s to support my independence I am going to leave the Netherlands be for now. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. ZWRmNGI4ZjFlIn0= Hum, I'm a bit fearful of quickly endind by being eaten by France or Burgundy, as I never played in this region. The only advantage it has is the +20% Infantry CA from the policy with Quality. If anyone has any useful advice, it would be much appreciated. It's possibly the most universally viable idea group, and even though you'll be using a lot of mercs as the Netherlands, you'll still be dangerously small with low manpower and force limit early on, and until your trade income takes off you're going to have to field a lot of your own troops. ZGVmYzFlOGMxNDI1ZWNkNTEyOWYxN2Q0MzIwNmU5YTlmNWUyOWVmZTU5Zjc3 Valve Corporation. I picked up europa universalis just a couple days ago and want to do a campaign as the Netherlands as my first serious game. OTE2ODdmZTYwN2ZjYThmNTYxOTQyMzdiMGFkYWM1YWRkOGQwMThmMzE2YmZj You'll get a TON of monarch points, a lot of money (Milan is pretty much the most developed 4-provinced minors in the world) and cool ideas (both cheaper tech and ideas) Once you're confident enough you can form Italy, adopt its' ideas (mainly for cheaper core creation) and blob out of proportion. Archived post. YzI0ZmIwNjY2ZmQwNTQxZDdlZjYwOWY2ZjA2OWE5M2FlNjVhMjFmM2Y1MzM3 The biggest question is when you should unlock them. I thought I might share my thoughts on idea groups/strategy for Holland. Truth be told, the necessary tools for a successful tall campaign did not exist in the game's early days. M2QwMDE1ZDY3ZGI2ODk0MmEyODZkYWZlM2RiOGJlMWJkNTYxNTM0OGIzYzM5 Third idea should then be either Exploration, to get colonies going, or a military idea of your choosing. Normally economy and trade are subpar idea groups because you're trading monarch points for gold. Holland is one of the best nations for playing tall, having a massive army that is also extremely powerful, being extremely rich, dominating trade, forming The Netherlands and more! https://youtu.be/N97_INwKhBI PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ludiethistoria TWITCH http://www.twitch.tv/ludiethistoria DISCORD https://discord.gg/TjNRkGnYkwCheck out my Twitch Vods Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCri3qYX24n8cpPp2g4xtA4Q You can Also Check My Personal Channel Here! https://www.youtube.com/c/Ludisan More Starting Moves Guides in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrsZC4e_2qJ_CfLMUMsP4d2ylMwdxWPrE Europa Universalis IV is a grand strategy games published by Paradox Interactive. After that, you can mix and match to suit your playstyle, but be sure to include production efficiency +20% followed by goods produced +20% and a morale +20% to stack with the peasant republic bonuses. OWExMWEwZWM1NTVhMDNmOGQ2YjBmNjZjNGU3MDhjYjA2MjBkZjIzYjMyMzU0 ODc4NjZhMzU0OTM5Njc5ZWFhMGQ3ZGNlYWRlY2NkZjRjZDU2NWQxMDUyMjVk NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING - YouTube New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In This EU4 Holland Guide we start as Holland, get independence from Burgundy and Play Tall with few provinces and get more income than anyone elseHere's the version of this video where you fight the independence war! Innovative sucks, i would switch it with humanist or expansion for helping expansion into Asia/Africa or economic if you want to play tall. I love Diplo. ZDFhZjI3ODdhMTZjYWFmMWRjMGQ3YWViMmY1MjAyYzM4M2VmYzdhZWYyMzgw and our OTI5NDVlZDE3YzU2MWEyYWIyY2YwODdhNGU0MTJlMmZmMzI4YWQ1OGFlNDg3 Quantity, trade, offensive, influence. This EU4 Holland starting moves guide or EU4 Holland starting moves tutorial will ensure that you get a great start for yourself playing as the nation of Holland. The Dutch are emerging as one of Europe's most capable naval and colonial powers. All rights reserved. I would go for Diplomatic, because of more Improved Relations and Warscore cost. The low countries are my go to tall play, namely Holland, you become quite safe after getting independence since you join the HRE. NjdmYWI3ZTFlNmM0YmVhOTliZGM3MzQzNmVjOGNiODMxYmExYmRiNTIyMDc2 YmQ3ZWZjZTg4ODMwODUzNzRhNzE0NmRjNWMwNmMxNGE2MzgxZWRkNzI2YWIx #eu4 #europauniversalis4 Some general advice would be nice as well. Don't you find taking exploration so early is "underutilised", i.e without doing tricky things like taking a province in Brittany you can't get very far. EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland The Red Hawk 103K subscribers Join Subscribe 3.5K Share 125K views 8 months ago #eu4 #europauniversalis4 2nd Channel:. Some Dutch minor into the Netherlands? YTc4ZWY3N2QxYTAwZTZhMTkwYWRlZmYwYTY3YjNjMWY3ZWQ1Nzg4Mjc5NWI3 I don't plan on disbanding the HRE unless it looks like the Emperor is going to revoke the privilegia. This is because the aspects that are central to playing tall (building slots, trade goods, trade nodes etc) become accessible by just taking more land as well. Maybe Offensive instead of Quality? Top 10 Best Nations To Play Tall in EU4 - FandomSpot Makes for awesome siege ability, and the extra 20% FL also seems like something Holland would like. With EU4 1.33 France releasing the meta and the starting moves for many nations on the map has changed, so of course new and up to date guides are needed. Best ideas for Netherlands : r/eu4 - Reddit OGI4NWIyYzhjNWQ0N2JjNTEwMGM1NGJiMTc0YjUxMGJkNTk2M2ZmMzg3ZTY5 You can do some real damage to armies with the swiss home guard in mountain forts! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. In my experience, the Low Countries region is probably the best and most fun region for playing tall, and it also one of the easiest if you are new to playing tall. What others should I be looking at to play tall in the HRE? So I'm currently doing a Rothenburg -> Franconia game, and it's my first time playing tall.